Does Jesus condemn woman as filthy and seductive? Does He say that our speech is not to be heard?
Does Jesus say that women are less than men? Less morally capable? Less intelligent?
Well, the Talmud (oral Jewish law, Pharisees were famous for
it… adding to THE Law from God)
Nowhere in the OT does God say that women cannot speak in
church.
Go ahead and check. J
Apparently the Talmud does say to silence women. This sounds much more like a Muslim teaching
to me and since they are all from the same line, it’s not a stretch that this
teaching would be in both systems.
The
Talmud clearly affirms the silence of females:
“A woman’s voice is prohibited because it is sexually provocative” (Talmud, Berachot 24a).
“Women are sexually seductive, mentally inferior, socially embarrassing, and spiritually separated from the law of Moses; therefore, let them be silent” (summary of Talmudic sayings).
“A woman’s voice is prohibited because it is sexually provocative” (Talmud, Berachot 24a).
“Women are sexually seductive, mentally inferior, socially embarrassing, and spiritually separated from the law of Moses; therefore, let them be silent” (summary of Talmudic sayings).
“It
is a shame for a woman to let her voice be heard among men” (Talmud, Tractate
Kiddushin).
“The voice of a woman is filthy nakedness” (Talmud, Berachot Kiddushin).
“The voice of a woman is filthy nakedness” (Talmud, Berachot Kiddushin).
Does this sound like the voice of Jesus? Do you think this is the kind of thing He
said to the woman at the well? To the adulteress
the crowd was trying to stone? Does it
even sound like Paul? It really doesn’t. It sounds like man’s heart. Like his desire to control and rule over
things. Look around the world and where
greed and corruption flourish man is in control without being accountable to
God. Without a relationship with the
creator of the world who desires an ongoing and intimate relationship with us. What I really see above is that man’s heart
is evil and corruptible if they think that every time a woman opens her mouth
it is sexually provocative. Typically,
in our culture it is men who have the stronger sex drive. I think it interesting that they try to put their
own sins upon the woman.
I don’t see the Bible teaching that spiritual gifts are
based on what chromosomes you have. They
are not dependent upon the sex of the recipient. Thus, woman can have the gifts of teaching
and pastorship.
You can read more at THIS
BLOG.
(THISis really good too, though I warn my Catholic friends, you will not like what she has to say)
(THISis really good too, though I warn my Catholic friends, you will not like what she has to say)
And my new mantra for when people talk about how wives are
to submit to their husbands is to reply… and husbands are to love their wives
as Christ loves the church, even to the point of laying down their life for
them. That’s the kind of man I will
submit to!